Android though.. It seems fTelnet is the best I've seen for Android
so far.
I agree.
I love BBSs that offer fTelnet, because it's a nice concept to be able to BBS while on the go. But, I'd like to see BBSing retrofitted for the web in a more enjoyable way, some day.
It would be cool if someone wrote a php script to handle Fidonet as networked internet forums - something that people could easily inject into their website. Then, everyone could just visit a website with their normal mobile browser (no extra app) and read/reply to messages in the BBS world.
Do you get me? That would totally do the trick!
the keyboard. I liked it, and I'm not sure why more phones aren't
made with physical keyboards.
Because keyboard-free devices were a thing for a time and everybody hopped on the trend. The fact that it let them eliminate a part that would save
them a couple bucks per unit just made it that much easier to justify. Now if you really want a keyboard they can sell it to you separately and jack the price up knowing you have no idea you're being scammed. Sick, isn't it?
I love BBSs that offer fTelnet, because it's a nice concept to be able
to BBS while on the go. But, I'd like to see BBSing retrofitted for the web in a more enjoyable way, some day.
It would be cool if someone wrote a php script to handle Fidonet as networked internet forums - something that people could easily inject
into their website. Then, everyone could just visit a website with their normal mobile browser (no extra app) and read/reply to messages in the
BBS world.
There's an actual fTelnet app for Android too, so you don't have to
visit a BBS's web site.
much.. ;) Two weeks ago, I switched my complete ftn-setup from Mystic BinkD+Husky+GoldEd - that's my kick! ;)
Sorry, I don't have a clue about what that means. Bink sounds like an ancient front end mailer, but I don't know about these terms!
actually, binkd is pretty new... you are thinking of the old binkleyterm mailer which is from the frontdoor days... binkd is similar to
These days, it seems like it would be better to just can all these
nets under one name, perhaps Fido. I know the original plan was very
I would disagree with that... FIdonet is 95% old men who are dicks. Othernets are where it's at.
Shawn
These days, it seems like it would be better to just can all these nets unde one name, perhaps Fido. I know the original plan was very ambitious, but it' like a big empty warehouse now.
I strongly disagree as most operators of Othernets want nothing to do whatsoever with Fidonet. Some of the Fido crowd just completely tarnished the reputation beyond recovery. Its a dying network.
I would disagree with that... FIdonet is 95% old men who are dicks. Othernets are where it's at.
I strongly disagree as most operators of Othernets want nothing to do whatsoever with Fidonet. Some of the Fido crowd just completely
tarnished the reputation beyond recovery. Its a dying network.
I strongly disagree as most operators of Othernets want nothing to do whatsoever with Fidonet. Some of the Fido crowd just completely
tarnished the reputation beyond recovery. Its a dying network.
I would disagree with that... FIdonet is 95% old men who are dicks. Othernets are where it's at.
There's like 2 guys besides me who post in the political echos. They
have a really longstanding conversation going on, and I try to butt-in, but they are kinda stuck on each other. :)
We could largely replace all these nets with a net called something like "BBSnet: The legacy lives on!"
Then, the people who still cling on to their dying networks will eventually let them evaporate, and those who are into posting/replying messages will prevail.
Do you need some acid to think like this? I probably had too much as a
kid and am now permanently fucked as a result. :(
These days, it seems like it would be better to just can all these nets one name, perhaps Fido. I know the original plan was very ambitious, bu like a big empty warehouse now.
I strongly disagree as most operators of Othernets want nothing to do whatsoever with Fidonet. Some of the Fido crowd just completely
tarnished the reputation beyond recovery. Its a dying network.
Its a dying network.
There's like 2 guys besides me who post in the political echos. They
have a really longstanding conversation going on, and I try to butt-in, but they are kinda stuck on each other. :)
I call Alco a lot, and the dude has all the nets, afaik, and probably
most of the echos. But all these nets & echos seem like a pile of shit though, kinda..
Each net has it's own "General Messages" type thing, I think they all
have "BBS Discussion," "Ansi Geekly," etc...
So it's like I read Fidonet, and it's like "Sup old dudes?" Then I jump
to Dorenet & it's like "Sup Dream Master?" then I jump to Agoranet and
I'm like "Sup liberals?"
But they all have about the same response: "Not much.."
We could largely replace all these nets with a net called something like "BBSnet: The legacy lives on!"
Then, the people who still cling on to their dying networks will eventually let them evaporate, and those who are into posting/replying messages will prevail.
Do you need some acid to think like this? I probably had too much as a
kid and am now permanently fucked as a result. :(
I strongly disagree as most operators of Othernets want nothing to do whatsoever with Fidonet. Some of the Fido crowd just completely tarnish the reputation beyond recovery. Its a dying network.
I don't look at FidoNet a whole lot, so I might not be very up on it. What done to tarnish the reputation of FidoNet? Is it mainly that FidoNet is mos grumpy people?
I strongly disagree as most operators of Othernets want nothing to do whatsoever with Fidonet. Some of the Fido crowd just completely tarnished the reputation beyond recovery. Its a dying network.
Ok, so fuck Fido, but maybe everyone get together under a new title? It woul simplify the BBS experience a little.
We could largely replace all these nets with a net called something like "BBSnet: The legacy lives on!"
I strongly disagree as most operators of Othernets want nothing to do whatsoever with Fidonet. Some of the Fido crowd just completely tarnished the reputation beyond recovery. Its a dying network.
FidoNet was always about control-freaks being control-freaks and shitting o anyone who wanted to have a conversation about anything remotely controversial. Hell, they used to shit on Tom Jennings because he talked about being gay in FidoNews, which rubbed bible beaters the wrong way.
That generation is gone, and I don't know who's left other than russians, b I can't imagine it's improved much.
I would disagree with that... FIdonet is 95% old men who are dicks. Othernets are where it's at.
So it's like I read Fidonet, and it's like "Sup old dudes?" Then I jump to Dorenet & it's like "Sup Dream Master?" then I jump to Agoranet and I'm like "Sup liberals?"
But they all have about the same response: "Not much.."
Its sad that something started by a gay anarchist turned into something where if you swear in an echo, you are threatened with a feed cut or
some other draconian action.
On 06/13/17, metalhead pondered and said...
There's like 2 guys besides me who post in the political echos. They have a really longstanding conversation going on, and I try to butt-i but they are kinda stuck on each other. :)
I have this view in my mind of those two old guys from the Muppet Show
now :)
When Fido began to grow by leaps & bounds, many bad politics began to surface and some feelings were hurt amongst some very technical people with the growing pains. But I think the biggest on the surface, would be the censorship.
Its sad that something started by a gay anarchist turned into something where if you swear in an echo, you are threatened with a feed cut or
some other draconian action.
on this technology that they are a part of. A good example is censoring echoes or trying to "ban" users over perceived offensive messages.
The Russians do it for shits & giggles mostly, nothing overtly serious. They can't even route Netmail properly.
there were more old dicks still alive then. After all these years, not sure if you can change it.
Most likely you're asking the wrong questions (with the ones you've~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
mentioned above), and people just don't care to respond to you.
I'm not sure I know of any die-hard liberals in this network. If there
were they would be preaching the other side of the argument just as much
as you like to push your opinion on everyone. Your preaching has far outweighed anything I've seen in Agoranet since it's inception in 2012, politically. As a matter of fact, there wasn't much political discussion
at all in this network before you started it what, about a year ago?
Or do you just label people liberals because they don't agree with you
100% on your pro-Trump rants?
Personally, I think both sides are corrupt, and have been for quite some time. If you want to label me a liberal because of that, it just continues
to show the ignorance of the whole 'being on one side of the fence' mantra all the sheep like to follow.
Ya, and i'm sure most of the ranting the label crap just turns everyone off, once people start spouting that shit then it's like why even
bother replying.
I have this view in my mind of those two old guys from the Muppet Show
now :)
Most likely you're asking the wrong questions (with the ones you've mentioned above), and people just don't care to respond to you.
I'm not sure I know of any die-hard liberals in this network. If there
I would disagree with that... FIdonet is 95% old men who are dicks. Othernets are where it's at.
They are like those guys! And similarly, I can't recall their names :(
Most likely you're asking the wrong questions (with the ones you've
mentioned above), and people just don't care to respond to you.
Most likely not, fuckface. Just because I'm not a Hillary supporter doesn't mean I'm stupid. Go fuck yourself.
are theI'm not sure I know of any die-hard liberals in this network. If there
There are. You're just way too ignorant to admit it. Go back a few messages. You didn't say shit until I said "What's up liberals?" So, you
definition of the dick you're trying to paint me to look like.
Fuck you Nicholas Boel. I will definitely stay the fuck out of Hillarynet from now on. You can go back to blackcocks.com and relax yourself.
How am I forcing my opinion on people? Suck another dick, fucker.
These days the people that rant like that are usually fairly impossible
to give any other kind of opinion that doesn't magically match theirs
100% without getting into some kind of ridiculous argument that amounts
to nothing anyways.
That's usually when the name calling starts.
I have this view in my mind of those two old guys from the Muppet Sho now :)
They are like those guys! And similarly, I can't recall their names :(
I agree totally with this. :D I just skim over those posts and move on to another more interesting read.
Its sad that something started by a gay anarchist turned into something where if you swear in an echo, you are threatened with a feed cut or some other draconian action.
Yeah, that always puzzled me. FidoNet seemed to be about control freaks exalting in exerting control over their little fiefdoms. It was a rude awakening for many of them when they started getting connected to the (much larger and far more advanced) Internet and doing things like picking up USENET news feeds. If you saw someone posting from an address that looked
When Fido began to grow by leaps & bounds, many bad politics began to surface and some feelings were hurt amongst some very technical people with the growing pains. But I think the biggest on the surface, would the censorship.
Censorship is generally what drove the creation of Othernets, but there was other shit ... like RCs acting like petty tyrants and certain parties tryin to shove IFNA down our collective throats.
Its sad that something started by a gay anarchist turned into somethin where if you swear in an echo, you are threatened with a feed cut or some other draconian action.
Fucking bibliolatrous christfags.
on this technology that they are a part of. A good example is censorin echoes or trying to "ban" users over perceived offensive messages.
Yeah. Nothing's changed, then. Same old dumb shit.
I wonder what Tom's doing these days...
The Russians do it for shits & giggles mostly, nothing overtly serious They can't even route Netmail properly.
...how can you fuck up Netmail routing?
How am I forcing my opinion on people? Suck another dick, fucker.
I would disagree with that... FIdonet is 95% old men who are dicks. Othernets are where it's at.
This x 1000, sadly.
I've considered just dropping FidoNet entirely recently, because 99% of the douche-baggery I have to deal with is sourced from Fido people.
Yup, along with censoring an entire echo in 2010 if I recall for a whole zone as "read only" because they did not like the messages that were posted by one person. This also extended to another person from
I've considered just dropping FidoNet entirely recently, because 99% of douche-baggery I have to deal with is sourced from Fido people.
I've contemplated the same thing and I've developed software for that stupid network over the years.
I've considered just dropping FidoNet entirely recently, because 99%
of the douche-baggery I have to deal with is sourced from Fido people.
I know for a fact some echoes are moderated by folks who like to keep things squeaky clean but behind the scenes they curse like sailors.
I've had feed cut requests sent to me for downlinks of mine. Ask Tiny about that one and how that turned out, haha
FidoNet was always about control-freaks being control-freaks and shitting on anyone who wanted to have a conversation about anything remotely
Just tell them you think Trump is Hitler, or Obama is Hitler, depending on the orientation of the parties involved. That's a good start.
I have this view in my mind of those two old guys from the Muppet Sho now :)
They are like those guys! And similarly, I can't recall their names :(
Probably long retired and amazed/baffled that Fido still exists...
Just tell them you think Trump is Hitler, or Obama is Hitler, dependi the orientation of the parties involved. That's a good start.
What I think is funny is that both parties have compared the other candidate to Hitler in some form. I tend to stay out of political conversations because they usually don't tend to go anywhere.
Yup, along with censoring an entire echo in 2010 if I recall for a whol zone as "read only" because they did not like the messages that were posted by one person. This also extended to another person from
If I am not mistaken, they did something like this to the MYSTIC echo a few years back, because some of us didn't agree with someone else's opinion.
I've contemplated the same thing and I've developed software for that stupid network over the years.
Thankfully, people like Nick (and several othernets too) give us a mostly sa and well managed place to go. It really helps to combat the frustration of bat-shit Fido stuff that I've encountered in the past.
I know for a fact some echoes are moderated by folks who like to keep things squeaky clean but behind the scenes they curse like sailors.
I jsut de listed all of the idiots echo's which is why you won't see me in dbridge echo anymore. I can't handle him showing me his penis all the time over
nothing.
on 06/16/17, Atreyu said...
Probably long retired and amazed/baffled that Fido still exists...
Hmm. Per Wikipedia...working at UC Irvine and Calarts. Yeah, I think he mad some comment about being baffled it was still around in a certain loudmouth documentary.
Atreyu wrote to Metalhead <=-
I strongly disagree as most operators of Othernets want nothing to do whatsoever with Fidonet. Some of the Fido crowd just completely
tarnished the reputation beyond recovery. Its a dying network.
Mickey wrote to metalhead <=-
So funny. Way back (as I'm sure many will remember), in the 80's when I first set Fido up on my BBS (a verrrry complicated task), most of the verbal users appeared to be old men who were dicks. They seemed to like spouting the 'rulez' of the echo constantly.
Digital Avatar wrote to Atreyu <=-
I wonder what Tom's doing these days...
Atreyu wrote to Tenser <=-
The control freaks still like to have their way in a few echoes. Especially the dead ones. Posting monthly "rules" in some vain attempt
to keep things alive. For example, there are several BBS echoes that
are just outright dead... but attempting to politely suggest a consolodation and you get flamed.
I know for a fact some echoes are moderated by folks who like to keep things squeaky clean but behind the scenes they curse like sailors.
Its not so much that I really mind dealing with the Fido crowd, its
just that it eventually turns into such a douchefest. Its a culture
clash or a language clash, or a I'll-fix-shit-whenever-I-feel-like-it clash.
You're lucky because people who run your shit are cool.... at least
for the most part. They get that its BBS software and it can do cool things. You get the odd weiner here and there. Most people running my
shit are old-timers. I have to be VERY careful with how I clarify
things, or not getting baited by trolls who like to think they know everything about how mailer software works.
Atreyu
I hear ya... but its not as if any "real" action can be taken
though...
Hmm. Per Wikipedia...working at UC Irvine and Calarts. Yeah, I think h some comment about being baffled it was still around in a certain loud documentary.
Ahhhh... would that be Jason Scott?
Yes, I was disappointed the Toronto BBS scene did not get any coverage, and he completely and totally ignored the European demographic.
I'd love to see a Fidonet culling - get rid of any echoes that haven't
had postings in 3 years, and send a ping out to every board in the nodelist. Don't respond to three pings? Take them out of the nodelist.
I'd hope that a Fidonet nodelist and echolist that accurately
reflected active nodes and message areas would feel like a different place.
You're lucky because people who run your shit are cool.... at least for the most part. They get that its BBS software and it can do cool things. You get the odd weiner here and there. Most people running my shit are old-timers. I have to be VERY careful with how I clarify things, or not getting baited by trolls who like to think they know everything about
how mailer software works.
Ahhhh... would that be Jason Scott?
He ignored a lot of things. The final product basically reduced to "here are people I'm friends with plus some randoms". It's not terrible, but there's certainly room for improvement.
Re: BBS Discussion
By: Digital Avatar to metalhead on Tue Jun 13 2017 12:58 am
Just tell them you think Trump is Hitler, or Obama is Hitler, dependi the orientation of the parties involved. That's a good start.
Just tell them you think Trump is Hitler, or Obama is Hitler,
dependi the orientation of the parties involved. That's a good
start.
+1
Thanks!
Hitler,Just tell them you think Trump is Hitler, or Obama is
gooddependi the orientation of the parties involved. That's a
start.
+1
Thanks!
You replied to me, but the person you were quoting was not me.
Most software by doing that you would have to manually change the TO field to who you're actually addressing the message to, but in this case, he did in fact quote you (well, your quote anyway).
Most software by doing that you would have to manually change the
TO field to who you're actually addressing the message to, but in
this case, he did in fact quote you (well, your quote anyway).
True, but the part of the message (text-wise) that he was replying to wasn't mine (as in I didn't write it). I figured it would make more
sense to reply directly to the person who originally wrote what is
being quoted. :)
If I see a quote that I might want to add to, sometimes I'll go back
and find the original message with that content so I can reply to the correct person (quoting their quote, rather than someone else's quote
when they quoted that person). :)
Re: Re: BBS Discussion
By: Orbitman to Nightfox on Mon Jun 19 2017 06:16 pm
Just tell them you think Trump is Hitler, or Obama is Hitler, DA>> dependi the orientation of the parties involved. That's a good DA>> start.
+1
Thanks!
You replied to me, but the person you were quoting was not me.
Yep, understood. However it did have the original author's initials (albeit after yours, showing that you quoted it as well). I was just making sure you were aware that whatever software was used was actually okay, it was just a matter of replying to a reply, which usually doesn't happen.
If you notice, though.. this is why we went through the whole ordeal of the quoting initials. Had I done that with Golded or Slyedit, it *should* have displayed without your initials, and a double ">" after the original poster's (ie: DA>>). Right?
Re: Re: BBS Discussion
By: Orbitman to Nightfox on Mon Jun 19 2017 06:16 pm
Just tell them you think Trump is Hitler, or Obama is Hitler, DA>> dependi the orientation of the parties involved. That's a good DA>> start.
+1
Thanks!
You replied to me, but the person you were quoting was not me.
Man, did we just make this topic confusing as all get out. ;)
It is confusing for people who use threaded web pages to come into a
BBS and understand the workings. Heck, I used BBSes in the 80s and 90s rather frequently and still don't remember everything.
For some reason I am reminded of a scene from Fight Club:
"WOAH! WOAH! ... ... ... OK. You are now firing a gun at your
imaginary friend near FOUR HUNDRED GALLONS OF NITROGLYCERINE!"
Suffice it to say I think we may be straying a bit from the point.
We all look alike anyway.
Suffice it to say I think we may be straying a bit from the point.
What was the point again?
here's one bit of advice.. Try "/q" without quotes on a single line to quote the text you're replying to.
What was the point again?
It should be illegal for fat chicks to wear spandex.
On 14 Jun 17 23:36:17, Metalhead said the following to Nicholas Boel:
How am I forcing my opinion on people? Suck another dick, fucker.
Calm down, have some dip.
Atreyu
Hello Digital,
On Thu Jun 22 2017 03:42:20, Digital Avatar wrote to Accession:
What was the point again?
It should be illegal for fat chicks to wear spandex.
Agreed 100%.
You'd think they would have overheard someone saying that by now and
taken some time to really let it soak in, but no.. there's even more of them now wearing brighter colors than ever. ;(
You'd think they would have overheard someone saying that by now and
taken some time to really let it soak in, but no.. there's even more of them now wearing brighter colors than ever. ;(
Yep! They should dress for the body they HAVE, not the body they WANT.
How am I forcing my opinion on people? Suck another dick, fucker.
Calm down, have some dip.
What's all the dickshit about?
I like big butts and I cannot lie. Big floppy boobs get me high. When she's got some smarts and some jiggly parts, I get sprung. Ya know I
wanna get some. The nerdier the better especially in a tight sweater!
I like big butts and I cannot lie. Big floppy boobs get me high. When she's some smarts and some jiggly parts, I get sprung. Ya know I wanna get some. T nerdier the better especially in a tight sweater!
It should be illegal for fat chicks to wear spandex.
Yep! They should dress for the body they HAVE, not the body they WANI think this applies to plenty of dudes too. Ever see those guys walking around with the bottom of their gut hanging out, or even more common are the guys whose ass cracks are constantly hanging out.
It should be illegal for fat chicks to wear spandex.
I'd rather she be wearing spandex and jogging, than laying on the couch watching TV wearing not-spandex =)
Digital Avatar wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-
You'd think that would be standard practice. I mean, to even get on the nodelist you had to have your system configured and ready to poll and
you weren't getting in until it was done. I don't know if it's still
that way, but it should be.
It used to be that way, it was up to the prospective sysop to figure
out where to poll by looking at a nodelist, set a dummy address and crashmail your app to your regional coordinator. It served as a
nice litmus test.
I have people who email me an application, get a node number and take
3 months to poll.
Sysop: | Nelgin |
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Location: | Plano, TX |
Users: | 509 |
Nodes: | 10 (1 / 9) |
Uptime: | 108:51:08 |
Calls: | 8,193 |
Files: | 15,442 |
Messages: | 913,184 |