• Plex Media Server: Intel i915 & Nvidia not found

    From Nightfox@21:1/137 to All on Thu Aug 11 16:01:29 2022
    I have a PC that I run Plex Media Server on (it's also my BBS PC). I was running Linux Mint 20.3 on it, and last weekend I decided to upgrade it to Linux Mint 21. I ended up installing Linux Mint 21 fresh rather than doing an upgrade (after backing up the important files). I got everything all working and set up again.

    There's one little snag though. Normally, Plex Media Server supports hardware accelerated transcoding (if you have a Plex Pass membership, which I do). With the older Linux Mint 20.3 installation, Plex Media Server was able to detect the requird Intel i915 and Nvidia hardware. The PC has an Intel i7-8700K processor and an Nvidia GeForce 1060, and I have the Nvidia driver (version 515.65) installed for the graphics card as well as drivers to support the Intel features. However, when I installed Plex Media Server on it, it said the Intel i915 hardware and Nvidia hardware is not found.

    I've posted about this on the Plex Media Server support forums a few days ago but haven't heard back there yet. I'm wondering if I've missed a step somewhere, or if there's something about Linux Mint 21 that is not yet supported by Plex Media Server?
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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to Nightfox on Fri Aug 12 12:47:00 2022
    Am 11.08.22 schrieb Nightfox@21:1/137 in FSX_RETRO:

    Hallo Nightfox,

    I've posted about this on the Plex Media Server support forums a
    few days ago but haven't heard back there yet. I'm wondering if
    I've missed a step somewhere, or if there's something about Linux
    Mint 21 that is not yet supported by Plex Media Server?

    I'm not using Plex (but Emby, which also supports GPU acceleration),
    but in general both systems might use ffmpeg or sth. like that in the background for transcoding media.
    So maybe some hints can help :)

    First: Do you see any messages in the Plex logfiles?
    Emby, for example, creates logfiles whenever something is being
    transcoded and they contain some hints on hardware acceleration.
    Maybe that could present a hint?

    My top guesses are either insufficient rights on the /dev files or a
    missing library file/package.

    Do you see any logfiles?

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to acn on Fri Aug 12 09:04:22 2022
    Re: Re: Plex Media Server: Intel i915 & Nvidia not found
    By: acn to Nightfox on Fri Aug 12 2022 12:47 pm

    Do you see any logfiles?

    There are log files, but the Plex installer tells you right away if it detects i915 and Nvidia. The Plex package installer said those were not detected during installation.
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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Nightfox on Sun Aug 14 12:33:27 2022
    On 11 Aug 2022, Nightfox said the following...
    I have a PC that I run Plex Media Server on (it's also my BBS PC). I was running Linux Mint 20.3 on it, and last weekend I decided to upgrade it
    to Linux Mint 21. I ended up installing Linux Mint 21 fresh rather than doing an upgrade (after backing up the important files). I got
    everything all working and set up again.

    There's one little snag though. Normally, Plex Media Server supports hardware accelerated transcoding (if you have a Plex Pass membership, which I do). With the older Linux Mint 20.3 installation, Plex Media Server was able to detect the requird Intel i915 and Nvidia hardware.
    The PC has an Intel i7-8700K processor and an Nvidia GeForce 1060, and I have the Nvidia driver (version 515.65) installed for the graphics card
    as well as drivers to support the Intel features. However, when I installed Plex Media Server on it, it said the Intel i915 hardware and Nvidia hardware is not found.

    I've posted about this on the Plex Media Server support forums a few
    days ago but haven't heard back there yet. I'm wondering if I've missed
    a step somewhere, or if there's something about Linux Mint 21 that is
    not yet supported by Plex Media Server?

    Not a mint guy but I do know that many thing require that MESA be installed to use all the cuda stuff. Its easier for programmers to just write for Vulkan instead of Direct X works in all OSes and all graphics cards.

    Again not sure if this is going to help but though it was worth a shot. It's really easy to forget to install them.

    I do know many of the top distro's automaticall handle the graphics setup now. PopOS, Manjaro, and Ubuntu. I use Manjaro so I know that when you install it there is a great graphics tool to handle which drivers are installed and used. This really helps with the NVidia stuff.

    Good Luck!

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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to Nightfox on Mon Aug 15 13:40:00 2022
    Am 12.08.22 schrieb Nightfox@21:1/137 in FSX_RETRO:

    Hallo Nightfox,

    Do you see any logfiles?

    There are log files, but the Plex installer tells you right away if it detects i915 and Nvidia. The Plex package installer said those were not detected during installation.

    Hmm, then the question remains: Why does it not detect the GPUs.
    Btw, what installer do you run? It's been some years that I've used
    Plex, but I've used the .deb file to install Plex on my Debian server.
    And I think the 'installer' has been the web app. And if that is
    running, I guess the logfiles could contain the output of the test
    routines.

    Regards.
    Anna

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to claw on Mon Aug 15 08:37:48 2022
    Re: Re: Plex Media Server: Intel i915 & Nvidia not found
    By: claw to Nightfox on Sun Aug 14 2022 12:33 pm

    Not a mint guy but I do know that many thing require that MESA be installed to use all the cuda stuff. Its easier for programmers to just write for Vulkan instead of Direct X works in all OSes and all graphics cards.

    I don't remember having to install that before for Plex Media Server to detect it in Linux Mint.. Also I'm not sure Plex Media Server uses CUDA for its hardware accelerated transcoding, but I suppose it's possible.

    Nightfox
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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to acn on Mon Aug 15 08:38:35 2022
    Re: Re: Plex Media Server: Intel i915 & Nvidia not found
    By: acn to Nightfox on Mon Aug 15 2022 01:40 pm

    Do you see any logfiles?

    There are log files, but the Plex installer tells you right away if
    it detects i915 and Nvidia. The Plex package installer said those
    were not detected during installation.

    Hmm, then the question remains: Why does it not detect the GPUs.
    Btw, what installer do you run? It's been some years that I've used
    Plex, but I've used the .deb file to install Plex on my Debian server.
    And I think the 'installer' has been the web app. And if that is
    running, I guess the logfiles could contain the output of the test routines.

    Yeah, I just install Plex using the .deb file.

    Nightfox
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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Nightfox on Mon Aug 15 12:45:53 2022
    On 15 Aug 2022, Nightfox said the following...
    I don't remember having to install that before for Plex Media Server to detect it in Linux Mint.. Also I'm not sure Plex Media Server uses CUDA for its hardware accelerated transcoding, but I suppose it's possible.

    Nightfox

    Its been years since I used PLEX and was hoping I could help. Everyone at my house has a PC so I just use a Samba Server now. I get its not as nice and doesn't have the interface but its less work to maintain. With all the streaming services we have It's Very rare I would need to use it anyway. One time we were without the Internet for a couple days and really wanted plex to replace the need streaming services, however without the Internet it wouldn't work. Since moving all the movies and music to the Samba Server I just don't need PLEX anymore.

    Hope you get it working.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to claw on Mon Aug 15 11:07:52 2022
    Re: Re: Plex Media Server: Intel i915 & Nvidia not found
    By: claw to Nightfox on Mon Aug 15 2022 12:45 pm

    Its been years since I used PLEX and was hoping I could help. Everyone at my house has a PC so I just use a Samba Server now. I get its not as nice and doesn't have the interface but its less work to maintain. With all the streaming services we have It's Very rare I would need to use it anyway. One time we were without the Internet for a couple days and really wanted plex to replace the need streaming services, however without the Internet it wouldn't work. Since moving all the movies and music to the Samba Server I just don't need PLEX anymore.

    Interesting that it wouldn't work without the internet. But I guess it needs to check your account information etc.. One thing I like about Plex is that you can watch content with people remotely. Also Plex keeps track of where you are so you can resume from where you left off in a video. Also, I don't want to pay for a bunch of different streaming services, which is one reason I like to run my Plex media server.

    Even if you don't run a Plex media server, Plex has a lot of free content that you can stream online with the Plex client app. They have some free movies & TV shows, and also a "live TV" section with channels and various shows they stream live throughout the day (it's very similar to the Roku Channel, if you've used that).

    Nightfox
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  • From deon@21:2/116 to claw on Tue Aug 16 10:55:04 2022
    Re: Re: Plex Media Server: Intel i915 & Nvidia not found
    By: claw to Nightfox on Mon Aug 15 2022 12:45 pm

    Very rare I would need to use it anyway. One time we were without the Internet for a couple days and really wanted plex to
    replace
    the need streaming services, however without the Internet it wouldn't work. Since moving all the movies and music to the Samba
    Server I just don't need PLEX anymore.

    Plex works well without the internet.

    I often go caravaning with the kids, and bring a long a little NAS with, use Plex as the interface to watch some movies. We have no internet while camping...

    Yes, as later versions came, it did become more difficult, but it still works.


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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Nightfox on Mon Aug 15 22:46:52 2022
    On 15 Aug 2022, Nightfox said the following...
    Interesting that it wouldn't work without the internet. But I guess it needs to check your account information etc.. One thing I like about
    Plex is that you can watch content with people remotely. Also Plex
    keeps track of where you are so you can resume from where you left off
    in a video. Also, I don't want to pay for a bunch of different streaming services, which is one reason I like to run my Plex media server.

    Even if you don't run a Plex media server, Plex has a lot of free
    content that you can stream online with the Plex client app. They have some free movies & TV shows, and also a "live TV" section with channels and various shows they stream live throughout the day (it's very similar to the Roku Channel, if you've used that).

    Nightfox

    I did run it for years and remember many of its qualities but the only time I actually need it is when the internet is down :D

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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to Nightfox on Tue Aug 16 13:25:00 2022
    Am 15.08.22 schrieb Nightfox@21:1/137 in FSX_RETRO:

    Hallo Nightfox,

    Interesting that it wouldn't work without the internet. But I guess it needs to check your account information etc..

    Just one note here:
    There are alternatives to Plex that do work fine without the need to
    phone home.
    (That's also the reason why I switched from Plex to Emby some years
    ago).

    Today, I would suggest having a look at Jellyfin. It's a free and open
    source fork of Emby.
    And as such, it features the same basic functionality that Plex has
    (incl. apps for most platforms). It only lacks the special Plex-
    provided cloud content.

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to acn on Tue Aug 16 07:58:42 2022
    On 16 Aug 2022, acn said the following...

    Just one note here:
    There are alternatives to Plex that do work fine without the need to phone home.
    (That's also the reason why I switched from Plex to Emby some years ago).

    Today, I would suggest having a look at Jellyfin. It's a free and open source fork of Emby.
    And as such, it features the same basic functionality that Plex has (incl. apps for most platforms). It only lacks the special Plex-
    provided cloud content.

    Regards,
    Anna

    I just might have o check that one out.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to claw on Tue Aug 16 08:45:27 2022
    Re: Re: Plex Media Server: Intel i915 & Nvidia not found
    By: claw to Nightfox on Mon Aug 15 2022 10:46 pm

    I did run it for years and remember many of its qualities but the only time I actually need it is when the internet is down :D

    Ah. :) The only online streaming service I subscribe to is Amazon Prime, and I actually don't watch a lot of stuff there.. The main thing I use Amazon Prime for is their free shipping, since I shop on Amazon sometimes.

    Nightfox
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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to acn on Tue Aug 16 08:47:31 2022
    Re: Re: Plex Media Server: Intel i915 & Nvidia not found
    By: acn to Nightfox on Tue Aug 16 2022 01:25 pm

    Today, I would suggest having a look at Jellyfin. It's a free and open source fork of Emby.
    And as such, it features the same basic functionality that Plex has (incl. apps for most platforms). It only lacks the special Plex-
    provided cloud content.

    It looks interesting. I think I had heard about Jellyfin (and Emby) but I haven't looked into them yet. I feel like Plex has been working okay for me, and I also bought a lifetime Plex Pass a couple years ago for their upgraded features..

    Nightfox
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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to Nightfox on Fri Aug 19 11:14:00 2022
    Am 16.08.22 schrieb Nightfox@21:1/137 in FSX_RETRO:

    Hallo Nightfox,

    It looks interesting. I think I had heard about Jellyfin (and
    Emby) but I haven't looked into them yet. I feel like Plex has
    been working okay for me, and I also bought a lifetime Plex Pass a
    couple years ago for their upgraded features..

    I did so, too. I bought it quite early, when it still has been a real
    Mac application :) (back in the days when I did use MacOS X on the
    desktop instead of Linux)
    But then they decided that Plex needs an active connection to their
    own servers just to log into my own system (running on my own server),
    so I looked for alternatives and found Emby.

    Regards,
    Anna

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